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Let us now visit an expanded version of responses to those
claims, and demonstrate how colligion plays a role in secular thinking.
From that, we can safely infer that role plays a part in the thousands of
differences in the nature of religious versus colligious claims. By
realizing that, perhaps it will become plain how we had to invent our own
terminology to deal with this kind of matter because the religious words
we had we too subject to wrong perceptions. When secular minds can develop
and share their own vocabulary and keep it out of harm's way by
establishing consequential definitions that highlight a rational natural
perception and allow no room for the irrational, much of the argument over
words' meanings will fade into silence.
1: "Morality comes from
God's Laws." As it is defined in your dictionary, morality is a
secular concern that resulted from wise people's observations about cause
and effect within human interactions. It has been wrongly twisted from
that purpose and adapted as a control mechanism by some aggressive cults
that used it to far outgrow their original boundaries by instilling fear
and horror into people about innocent occurrences and imaginary villains.
A colligious version of high morality as it is defined in a
secular dictionary exists to promote nurturant interactions between people
and their groups. Nurturance works where handouts will not, and promotes
good where tight controls act to actually prevent it, as facts gathered
from all over the world will show you.
2: "The Bible condemns homosexuality as evil."
This goes back to what we said earlier about faith. You have faith in
your Bible because it cannot possible be true, and so you have to believe
in it, and in what your leaders make of it, rather than going by what can
be shown to be reality in any situation.
If homosexuality is even questionably a natural condition
shared by many animals, then it is wrong to condemn it until you can
definitely prove otherwise. If you believe in a God who created everything
including ourselves, which means all of nature, and said it was good, then
you have to believe homosexuality is in some way good that maybe (I'll
just go along with your here) you don't understand, it being one of God's
mysteries. If some other part of your scriptures condemn homosexuality,
then that is just another example of disparities and conflicts within its
text.
3: "The Bible condemns atheism as evil. Atheists
who refuse to believe will all go to Hell." Your Bible does not
mention atheism per se, but does mention unbelievers and
hypocrites. Now, if you are one of those who says the Bible means what it
says, but you avoid certain passages in it, and certain doctrines as it
presents them, then you are as much an unbeliever as any atheist. That
Bible you keep quoting says nothing about its words being metaphors for
something other than what it expressed, nor does it tell you its stories
are simply examples to make a point and you can pick and choose from among
them to decide how you want to live. It does say that makes you a
hypocrite.
What I suggest you to do is to colligate all the literary
facts you can glean from that book, and set them all down pro and con for
all the things you hear being claimed about it. After that you will know
good and well why the early church forbade its members to read it, and why
so many intelligent people who do end up as apostates.
4: "The Bible says that things of this world are
temporary will keep me from going to Heaven when I die."
Some cults, and many sects within those cults, apparently
regard the Xian Bible, or some version of it, as a reliable source of
information.
It does not pass muster, however. Most of its contents
cannot be verified as actual historical events. Some of it contradicts
some other parts of it, and require specific apologia to have been created
in its defense. Much of that apologia does not pass muster.
Some of it requires belief in magic and Hallowe'en
creatures that cannot be verified to have ever existed. Some of it
describes people and events that it claims to have occurred in historical
times that left absolutely no evidence of any kind, even though they would
have been notable and talked about among the people of the era, at least
in that region of the world.
Spend the next five minutes colligating the biblical facts
you can find outside your scriptures. Sure, some things may be real, such
as place names, but so little information exists about the events said to
have occurred there, that more than five minutes should not be needed.
5: "The supernatural exists outside of
nature and cannot be subjected to the measurements of man." If the
supernatural exists outside of nature, it exists nowhere, for that is all
that gets left. It then becomes a category of science fiction or fantasy
and is no longer an aspect of reality the way it used to be before
apologia came along.
For something to exist outside of nature, makes in
unnatural. The unnatural has been defined by some past church leaders as a
form of perversity. While they cannot have their cake and also eat it,
their apologia only makes Xianity less credible in the long run.
But, then, that's what people telling lies generally will
accomplish.
6: "Our leaders have written thousands of pages
about how it takes more faith to be an atheist than to believe in God."
I wonder why they're so worried. That seems to be a lot of effort to
deal with a subject that is actually outside of your religion.
Do you suppose it could be so, unless they steer you clear
of us, we'll teach you useful ways to understand reality, and right versus
wrong, that will show them up? By learning how to recognize actually
factual information and using that knowledge to colligate an entirely
better system of knowledge such as is found in science, you might show
that to be true.
A true and testable understanding of reality than the
religions give you will hand you a leg up on your ability to make your way
through life, and be a better and more dependable person as a result.
Facts are available for you to colligate in your own way that show
atheistic people to be the lowest per capita of any group to occupy prison
cells and mental wards in every nation that has been polled. Using
democracy as a criterion, highly secular nations showed far lower rates of
crime and illness in comparison to highly religious nations such as the
United States. You can find the latest sources for this information on my
website.
7: "Atheism is obviously a religion. Colligion is
just a feeble attempt to deny that." Colligion is a name offered for
the compiled results of factual colligation, wherein a system of practices
results from that ongoing process. It differs from religion in almost
every aspect, as does atheism.
Pick a subject of interest, any one (or more) of your
choice, and colligate whatever information you can find about it. Under
your headings, mark whether religious (scriptural or doctrinal) sources
originated a piece of information, or whether it agrees with a general
perception of reality (is it testable). You will surely discover that,
wherever religion and science agree on a subject, the elements of it about
which they agree will be mainly secular in their origins.
Beware, though, that doing such tests as that will tend to
initiate doubt about the veracity of your religious credos, and will make
you vastly more aware of why atheism is an increasing worldview throughout
the democratic world. Colligion deserves your honest review before you
condemn it. Honesty needs for you to have experienced it and fully
understand it before you talk about it. Your apostasy awaits you, if you
are honest enough to deserve it.
8: "There has to be an absolute moral truth to
keep us from evil thoughts and deeds, and so from their consequences."
Why not try colligating all the factual information you can gather about
that, mark as religious that which is religious, and colligious that which
is verifiable in reality? You will find one source of laws that directly
affects our daily lives, and that those laws and rules are universal
throughout nature so far as we can determine, and at least so far as they
are relevant to us.
You will find, as your colligation of verifiably factual
materials increases, that whatever in religion that shows itself as truth
originated in this body of facts you have gathered together for the
purpose of determining a useful and testable hypothesis. You will also
find that, over the millenniums of human existence, that mankind has
already done this work that you have duplicated, that much of it has
gotten screwed up and twisted into perverted forms to serve the interests
of vested interests of any sort you can think up.
So, yes, there is a source of moral truth; but, yes,
the interest of religion has been to disavow it for the most part.
9: "Sin is any act in violation of God's Law,
including the thoughts in one's head." Again, something that cannot
demonstrate its own existence cannot impose meaningful laws. To call sin
that and have it mean anything, you must first demonstrate that your
particular god, out of all the particular gods mankind has worshipped
since the beginning of acknowledged time, exists in some form capable to
impose its will upon us. For so long as that stays true, the onus is yours
to demonstrate it otherwise. Yours, or the god's.
If you should ever bother to colligate all the information
available about your particular god in any honest fashion, and separate
the religious from the secular, you will not have much of a colligious
case. You will have religious statements to work with, and anecdotal
statements absent of verifiability, but no verifiable facts to be found in
nature.
What we started out with bears repeating at this point: All
that supports your belief in any of the gods is faith, the substance of
things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. That you proclaim faith
demonstrates that you do not want a god– your God –to actually exist. You
have too much to lose should you somehow manage to demonstrate that as
true. You would lose the power to influence authority: It would be
the authority. You would lose your reasons for proselytizing: Everybody
would then know the nature of God and whether your pronouncements were
true. Your secrets would no longer be yours alone, your sins yours to hide
from the world so that no one could know about them: Your God would
obviously know, and it would know also all about your lying, cheating, and
those dirty secret dreams that make you, a human being, a hypocrite
because you deny them while accusing and persecuting others in your acts
of self-aggrandizement.
Those who openly proclaim faith are no more believers and
no less doubters than the gnarliest of atheists. They are hopers at best,
it is written in the scriptures. Such a dishonest approach to living goes
to their reasons for being over-representative in the prison populations.
10: "Hedonism is an immoral philosophy that
flouts God's Law and sends people to an early grave after long bouts of
illness." First, learn about hedonism before you declare it immoral.
Hedonism may be immoral by religious standards, but that
also is true of all life's processes. Hedonism can also be understood to
be a way of testing all kinds of possible social interactions and taking
note of the results. In other words, as a philosophy, it represents the
best approaches of science: We experiment, we learn, we develop a
hypothesis and experiment some more. All that is absent, for the most
part, is the taking of notes and the tabulating of data.
In the nurturant society that could develop under a very
carefully developed hedonistic rule, mankind stands a chance to advance
beyond our wildest imaginings. Hedonism described as a philosophy of
abandonment stands no chance of that, and most probably develops out of
small groups of individuals who've found ways to take advantage of some
others. We have seen that all throughout history, even when such hedonism
was promoted by religious groups.
Your condemnation of hedonism results not from factual
materials, but from the offense you feel regarding your imaginings about
sexual activities and body shame about yourself that you project onto
others. You are imposing your personal problems onto the rest of the world
in a successful move against the religious freedom the United States
espouses while hiding its own true absence of it. Your condemnation is
emotional, not studied and not honest.
An honest assessment of nurturant hedonism cannot be
performed in the social atmosphere that prevails in most parts of today's
world, but inferences can result from a colligation of whatever facts we
can gather. Nurturant hedonism will arise as a philosophy from that
colligation. Let me describe what is meant by nurturant hedonism, and then
compile a short list of facts that show how badly we need to find a way to
test the inferences that result.
Nurturant hedonism derives from a philosophy that states
that true good arises from the experiences of pleasure as opposed to pain.
Actions describable as 'good' get rewarded by the experience of pleasure;
actions describable as 'bad' receive the aversive reward through the
experience of pain. Nature provides each of us with the senses that guide
us in the development of wisdom. In modern and historical times, religion
has opposed nature by finding ways to discount the messages we get from
our senses. What gets misconstrued as hedonism is a search for ways to
experience unearned pleasure as an end in itself. That, as your religious
statement in condemnation of hedonism declared, earns the practitioners
the aversive rewards that result.
Religion also earns its practitioners its own kind of
aversive (punishing) rewards. If we are to gain wisdom from this, perhaps
we should compile a list of observable religious rewards and then
colligate them into a hypothesis that we could test at some future time
when we could trust the results.
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