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Thought you might like to see what a cranky believer-reviewer says about the Dawkins book. I expect it's representative of the arguments a lot of believers would offer. You might want to comment on his views.

Lois

 Lois,  I will do that and, while doing so, will maintain my standard of using creamy white for my words and crap color for the offenders' words.

 

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October 22, 2006

Beyond Belief

By JIM HOLT

THE GOD DELUSION

By Richard Dawkins.

406 pp. Houghton Mifflin Company. $27.

 

Richard Dawkins, who holds the interesting title of “Charles Simonyi professor of the public understanding of science” at Oxford University, is a master of scientific exposition and synthesis. When it comes to his own specialty, evolutionary biology, there is none better. But the purpose of this book, his latest of many, is not to explain science. It is rather, as he tells us, “to raise consciousness,” which is quite another thing.  

I would suppose that a religious person would interpret 'consciousness' according to their religious definitions. A secular meaning would equate with 'awareness', a word that might be more accurate in this instance. In my mind it is about past time for scientists to begin speaking out in defense of the scientific worldview, whether they be religous or not, unless they are looking for future positions in the priesthood.

 The nub of Dawkins’s consciousness-raising message is that to be an atheist is a “brave and splendid” aspiration. Belief in God is not only a delusion, he argues, but a “pernicious” one. On a scale of 1 to 7, where 1 is certitude that God exists and 7 is certitude that God does not exist, Dawkins rates himself a 6: “I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable, and I live my life on the assumption that he is not there.” 

I would assume most atheists, if they have given the matter much thought, would also take that position for themselves. If he intends to criticize Dawkins for it, he should be given a mirror so he can see how many or few of his cohorts would stake a claim at number 1. I am willing to bet that those who cannot show real reasons why will show up with greater percentages than those at the atheist position would show at 7 but CAN show many reasons for why. That highlights why the colligious are more careful-minded than the religious, be they agnostics, atheists, or people who simply choose to identify themselves as one of the many forms of "secular" and who might show up at 4 or 5 on that imaginary scale. I would bet that there would be many more of them than you would find at positions 2 and 3, where a hole in the data might be found. That would make an interesting experiment, although I would like to see percentages expressed an a 0 - 100 scale instead of such coarse gradations.

Dawkins’s case against religion follows an outline that goes back to Bertrand Russell’s classic 1927 essay “Why I Am Not a Christian.” First, discredit the traditional reasons for supposing that God exists. (“God” is here taken to denote the Judeo-Christian deity, presumed to be eternal, all-powerful, all-good and the creator of the world.) Second, produce an argument or two supporting the contrary hypothesis, that God does not exist. Third, cast doubt on the transcendent origins of religion by showing that it has a purely natural explanation. Finally, show that we can have happy and meaningful lives without worshiping a deity, and that religion, far from being a necessary prop for morality, actually produces more evil than good. The first three steps are meant to undermine the truth of religion; the last goes to its pragmatic value.  

This is where not having read the book plays against me. I have to take the man's word for what was written, and I am all-too-familiar with theistical twisting of words and meanings.
 
'God' capitalized in the western world most generally refers to the Arabian contrivance for a deity of that name that the Judeo-Xian-Muslim-Hindu religions (and more) all inherited, the vicious, petty and violent mad-demon that created and rules the Earth and all else to exist. I think that needs not to be explained to most of us, unless the writer is trying to imply something not easily evident, such as to avoid his own discrediting of the sentence previous to his parentheses. Unless the writer can show equal force to oppose the "outline" as he described it, what is he offering as rebuttal? Without that, unless someone is easily satisfied with "putting atheists in their place", Dawkins rules the game so far.
 
The "truth of religion"? Were that true in itself, we would have discovered it ourselves and we would be in the other camp. It is as simple as that! The same about the pragmatic value: If someone could keep track of that (after first finding out what it means in the religious sense), and put it to the test, religion would be the sore loser. So certain as they are that will never happen, the believers are unafraid to mention it in public. Scientists, I repeat also in this place, need to begin defending themselves and their expressions of their views, often and forcefully just if only to counter the sheer weight of this kind of propaganda.

What Dawkins brings to this approach is a couple of fresh arguments — no mean achievement, considering how thoroughly these issues have been debated over the centuries — and a great deal of passion. The book fairly crackles with brio. Yet reading it can feel a little like watching a Michael Moore movie. There is lots of good, hard-hitting stuff about the imbecilities of religious fanatics and frauds of all stripes, but the tone is smug and the logic occasionally sloppy. Dawkins fans accustomed to his elegant prose might be surprised to come across such vulgarisms as “sucking up to God” and “Nur Nurny Nur Nur” (here the author, in a dubious polemical ploy, is imagining his theological adversary as a snotty playground brat). It’s all in good fun when Dawkins mocks a buffoon like Pat Robertson and fundamentalist pastors like the one who created “Hell Houses” to frighten sin-prone children at Halloween. But it is less edifying when he questions the sincerity of serious thinkers who disagree with him, like the late Stephen Jay Gould, or insinuates that recipients of the million-dollar-plus Templeton Prize, awarded for work reconciling science and spirituality, are intellectually dishonest (and presumably venal to boot). In a particularly low blow, he accuses Richard Swinburne, a philosopher of religion and science at Oxford, of attempting to “justify the Holocaust,” when Swinburne was struggling to square such monumental evils with the existence of a loving God. Perhaps all is fair in consciousness-raising. But Dawkins’s avowed hostility can make for scattershot reasoning as well as for rhetorical excess. Moreover, in training his Darwinian guns on religion, he risks destroying a larger target than he intends.  

 Unless the writer can show something to be actually wrong with Dawkins expressing a bit of passion, I wish we could see more of it from our camp in more places. Some good, stirring reading might awaken some of us up, and show that something is actually going on over here! Too many of us seem afraid to offend, yet the other camp is using of shock and awe against us.
 
Sloppy logic (as seen from religious eyes) is better than no logic at all. An effort to show logic gives a start many readers have never had that, if they are actually interested in learning, they can refine for themselves. Questioning the sincerity of religious thinkers responds to the aura of insincerity they set up in combat by setting out not to defend the indefensible, but to attack in aggressive fashion with it. From our camp, it is like a horde of teenagers dressed in Hallowe'en garb have been given guns and swords and turned loose on a tent campers' site. Frightening, yes, but laughable when the realization sets in that the swords are rubber and the guns are made of gingerbread.
 
To defend that is akin to avoiding acknowledgement of that ridiculous circumstance on the part of the teenages, who continue their ravaging of minds and pillaging of rectitude without pause. Their rubber-candy swords are falling apart and their gingerbread melts upon use, which they would realize given that pause in the midst of the right kind of information. But, no, the battle goes on. Attack! Attack! Do not pause to look at yourself in all of this, or you might fall down laughing with the rest of us!
 
Now, were Dawkins to risk "destroying" even a small portion of religion, how would that be accomplished. What would be the result? Why, we have to assume a decrease in the numbers of the religious, and an increase in the numbers of our own ranks. Seems like a risk well worth taking.

The least satisfying part of this book is Dawkins’s treatment of the traditional arguments for the existence of God. The “ontological argument” says that God must exist by his very nature, since he possesses all perfections, and it is more perfect to exist than not to exist. The “cosmological argument” says that the world must have an ultimate cause, and this cause could only be an eternal, God-like entity. The “design argument” appeals to special features of the universe (such as its suitability for the emergence of intelligent life), submitting that such features make it more probable than not that the universe had a purposive cosmic designer.

 

These, in a nutshell, are the Big Three arguments. To Dawkins, they are simply ridiculous. He dismisses the ontological argument as “infantile” and “dialectical prestidigitation” without quite identifying the defect in its logic, and he is baffled that a philosopher like Russell — “no fool” — could take it seriously. He seems unaware that this argument, though medieval in origin, comes in sophisticated modern versions that are not at all easy to refute. Shirking the intellectual hard work, Dawkins prefers to move on to parodic “proofs” that he has found on the Internet, like the “Argument From Emotional Blackmail: God loves you. How could you be so heartless as not to believe in him? Therefore God exists.” (For those who want to understand the weaknesses in the standard arguments for God’s existence, the best source I know remains the atheist philosopher J. L. Mackie’s 1982 book “The Miracle of Theism.”)  

 "…without quite identifying the defect in its logic?" Look who's talking, here. What is perfection about existing over not existing? How does one know how perfect their god is without even being able to describe it other than with questionable flatter-words? Logic is about comparative reasoning, for the most part: How does one compare anything to something that, as far as anyone can provide evidence, is nonexistent? Look: If existence came about as a warp in space-time, then existence is a defect. If existence came about as a creation by a lonely (imaginary creature) then that creature was not complete in itself, and so not perfect. What's so hard about that? Parodic proofs? Most caricatures of deities are provided by the believers. Don't accuse any of us of that, beyond that we all feel the need for comebacks against them just in order for theists to leave us alone. Thank you for the book recommendation. It would be easy to take that title to be just another bunch of religious platitudes.

It is doubtful that many people come to believe in God because of logical arguments, as opposed to their upbringing or having “heard a call.” But such arguments, even when they fail to be conclusive, can at least give religious belief an aura of reasonableness, especially when combined with certain scientific findings. We now know that our universe burst into being some 13 billion years ago (the theory of the Big Bang, as it happens, was worked out by a Belgian priest), and that its initial conditions seem to have been “fine tuned” so that life would eventually arise. If you are not religiously inclined, you might take these as brute facts and be done with the matter. But if you think that there must be some ultimate explanation for the improbable leaping-into-existence of the harmonious, biofriendly cosmos we find ourselves in, then the God hypothesis is at least rational to adhere to, isn’t it?  

 …an aura of reasonableness regarding the voices inside our heads? We're getting into a defense of schizophrenia here, which I am not equipped to rebut. No name makes for a nonexistent priest. Don't put down Dawkins until you can out-perform him. Georges Lemaitre, the priest and personal acquaintance of Albert Einstein, might wonder if you felt ashamed of him. So, what are you getting at with this?
 
The answer to your question has to be "No." Rationality follows a definitive set of rules that make for the difference between 'rationality' and 'rationalizing'.
 

No, it’s not, says Dawkins, whereupon he brings out what he views as “the central argument of my book.” At heart, this argument is an elaboration of the child’s question “But Mommy, who made God?” To posit God as the ground of all being is a nonstarter, Dawkins submits, for “any God capable of designing a universe, carefully and foresightfully tuned to lead to our evolution, must be a supremely complex and improbable entity who needs an even bigger explanation than the one he is supposed to provide.” Thus the God hypothesis is “very close to being ruled out by the laws of probability.”

 

Dawkins relies here on two premises: first, that a creator is bound to be more complex, and hence improbable, than his creation (you never, for instance, see a horseshoe making a blacksmith); and second, that to explain the improbable in terms of the more improbable is no explanation at all. Neither of these is among the “laws of probability,” as he suggests. The first is hotly disputed by theologians, who insist, in a rather woolly metaphysical way, that God is the essence of simplicity. He is, after all, infinite in every respect, and therefore much easier to define than a finite thing. Dawkins, however, points out that God can’t be all that simple if he is capable of, among other feats, simultaneously monitoring the thoughts of all his creatures and answering their prayers. (“Such bandwidth!” the author exclaims.)

 

If God is indeed more complex and improbable than his creation, does that rule him out as a valid explanation for the universe? The beauty of Darwinian evolution, as Dawkins never tires of observing, is that it shows how the simple can give rise to the complex. But not all scientific explanation follows this model. In physics, for example, the law of entropy implies that, for the universe as a whole, order always gives way to disorder; thus, if you want to explain the present state of the universe in terms of the past, you are pretty much stuck with explaining the probable (messy) in terms of the improbable (neat). It is far from clear which explanatory model makes sense for the deepest question, the one that, Dawkins complains, his theologian friends keep harping on: why does the universe exist at all? Darwinian processes can take you from simple to complex, but they can’t take you from Nothing to Something. If there is an ultimate explanation for our contingent and perishable world, it would seemingly have to appeal to something that is both necessary and imperishable, which one might label “God.” Of course, it can’t be known for sure that there is such an explanation. Perhaps, as Russell thought, “the universe is just there, and that’s all.”  

 More than anything else, these three paragraphs are about why so many theists eventually become apostates. People want to make sense of things, today's world puts a lot of pressure on people, and abandoning theism and its impracticality lessens at least half the stress of the split mentality required to maintain it. To the first two paragraphs: The universe exists because it can. For more, go here: http://www.lulu.com/content/309396
 
To compare a god as lesser than its creation, does that really serve your purpose? Who would worship such a "tiny", simple, featureless, powerless god that exists on the order of a germ, a molecule or atom, or a speck of dust?—or especially something that's infinitely less than any of those? What does that describe but the atheistic essence of God, which is of nothingness?

This sort of coolly speculative thinking could not be more remote from the rococo rituals of religion as it is actually practiced across the world. Why is it that all human cultures have religion if, as Dawkins believes he has proved, it rests on a delusion? Many thinkers — Marx, Freud, Durkheim — have produced natural histories of religion, arguing that it arose to serve some social or psychological function, such as, in Freud’s account, the fulfillment of repressed wishes toward a father-figure.  

Such speculation silently acknowledges the conditions in which religion arose, and acknowledges the universality of the human condition: It arose in the complete absence of science. It arose in the midst of ignorance, prevails in that circumstance, and seeks to perpetuate it. Humans have a tendency to fill in the gaps, whether they be cracks in sidewalks or walls, or in their own knowledge. Do we not understand that obvious fact?

Dawkins’s own attempt at a natural history is Darwinian, but not in the way you might expect. He is skeptical that religion has any survival value, contending that its cost in blood and guilt outweighs any conceivable benefits. Instead, he attributes religion to a “misfiring” of something else that is adaptively useful; namely, a child’s evolved tendency to believe its parents. Religious ideas, he thinks, are viruslike “memes” that multiply by infecting the gullible brains of children. (Dawkins coined the term “meme” three decades ago to refer to bits of culture that, he holds, reproduce and compete the way genes do.) Each religion, as he sees it, is a complex of mutually compatible memes that has managed to survive a process of natural selection. (“Perhaps,” he writes in his usual provocative vein, “Islam is analogous to a carnivorous gene complex, Buddhism to a herbivorous one.”) Religious beliefs, on this view, benefit neither us nor our genes; they benefit themselves.   

Religion may have had survival value in its original form. It may have had survival value inasmuch as early forms of it abetted the cohesiveness that enabled humans to develop a sense of belonging to a group under a leader. Some forms of that still persist in the world. They share common traits like primitiveness, the perpetuation of ignorance, the performance of magical rites, and other things that may once have worked in a serendipitous way to forestall some kind of calamity, maybe generations previous. Magical practices offer hope to people who otherwise have nothing going in their favor. "Sprinkle three fingers of salt in his cup and he will love you" is no more of a magical ritual than most of what is recognized as religion in our own, so-called "advanced" societies. Instead of salt, use a dash of God; the method has the same roots. Such ideas are intriguing enough to cause others to try them in a "maybe it will work for me" way, and so hope gets perpetuated and new generations eventually get born (after all, it is bound to work on some guy sooner or later, right?— and mama can tell her daughters how she captured their father's heart.
 
As to benefit: If a meme can get hundreds of hosts to kill themselves off in a flashy fashion for a cause others might find relevant, and part of the meme is to convince similar others to host what appears like a good cause from within the atmosphere it has created, and make it look like they are succeeding at getting revenge or subduing the giant oppressor who lives on the other side of the world, can you show how that is NOT what is going on? Dawkin's memes are the simplest explanation for the religious pogroms that are going on now and that have been going on for generations. How does that get perpetuated beyond the lifespans of the original instigators under any other simple explanation? Why demand a simple explanation for your God but a complex explanation about this?

Dawkins’s gullible-child proposal is, as he concedes, just one of many Darwinian hypotheses that have been speculatively put forward to account for religion. (Another is that religion is a byproduct of our genetically programmed tendency to fall in love.) Perhaps one of these hypotheses is true. If so, what would that say about the truth of religious beliefs themselves? The story Dawkins tells about religion might also be told about science or ethics. All ideas can be viewed as memes that replicate by jumping from brain to brain. Some of these ideas, Dawkins observes, spread because they are good for us, in the sense that they raise the likelihood of our genes getting into the next generation; others — like, he claims, religion — spread because normally useful parts of our minds “misfire.” Ethical values, he suggests, fall into the first category. Altruism, for example, benefits our selfish genes when it is lavished on close kin who share copies of those genes, or on non-kin who are in a position to return the favor. But what about pure “Good Samaritan” acts of kindness? These, Dawkins says, could be “misfirings,” although, he hastens to add, misfirings of a “blessed, precious” sort, unlike the nasty religious ones.  

That we are all born ignorant and defenseless is all the explanation needed for the perpetuation of all kinds of wierd concepts that outlive their originators. Altruism always satisfies a need of the good Samaritan, even as it satisfies another need. Just because it is not always obvious what that need may be does not negate its presence. I have no comment to make on what Dawkins may have said about what anything "could be". 

But the objectivity of ethics is undermined by Dawkins’s logic just as surely as religion is. The evolutionary biologist E. O. Wilson, in a 1985 paper written with the philosopher Michael Ruse, put the point starkly: ethics “is an illusion fobbed off on us by our genes to get us to cooperate,” and “the way our biology enforces its ends is by making us think that there is an objective higher code to which we are all subject.” In reducing ideas to “memes” that propagate by various kinds of “misfiring,” Dawkins is, willy-nilly, courting what some have called Darwinian nihilism.

 

He is also hasty in dismissing the practical benefits of religion. Surveys have shown that religious people live longer (probably because they have healthier lifestyles) and feel happier (perhaps owing to the social support they get from church). Judging from birthrate patterns in the United States and Europe, they also seem to be outbreeding secular types, a definite Darwinian advantage. On the other hand, Dawkins is probably right when he says that believers are no better than atheists when it comes to behaving ethically. One classic study showed that “Jesus people” were just as likely to cheat on tests as atheists and no more likely to do altruistic volunteer work. Oddly, Dawkins does not bother to cite such empirical evidence; instead, he relies, rather unscientifically, on his intuition. “I’m inclined to suspect,” he writes, “that there are very few atheists in prison.” (Even fewer Unitarians, I’d wager.) It is, however, instructive when he observes that the biblical Yahweh is an “appalling role model,” sanctioning gang-rape and genocide. Dawkins also deals at length with the objection, which he is evidently tired of hearing, that the arch evildoers of the last century, Hitler and Stalin, were both atheists. Hitler, he observes, “never formally renounced his Cathol[ic]ism”; and in the case of Stalin, a onetime Orthodox seminarian, “there is no evidence that his atheism motivated his brutality.” The equally murderous Mao goes unmentioned, but perhaps it could be argued that he was a religion unto himself.  

Surveys may show that such people believe they are happier than others, but statistics show the opposite. In http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html  a report entitled Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies, as given in A First Look by Gregory S. Paul, we can learn how large numbers of statistical data from various democratic countries show religion to be the loser in all kinds of health/happiness issues. The statistics are about actual health issues and actual atrocities, and not just what people think about themselves in comparison to others.
 
But, it is a part of most religions to believe they are right in all things, and to claim so. Data that measures the events in their lives tells a different story. As far as atheists in prison, that is also supported by statistics. You can find this on my website: As of March 7, 1997 The Federal Bureau of Prisons: 83.761% (of the 74731 total responses versus atheists at 0.21%). Atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less in the prison populations (0.21%). Even if you go to the extreme low of 3% of the USA population, we are not equivalently represented in prisons.

 As far as atheists being unreligious, I have argued with one (and heard of others) who claim to be both atheist and Christian. It is hard to use a broom against the religion in its entirety because whatever one Christian professes, there is another who does not believe in it, including God. (That there is at least one website at this time about it supports this claim).

 Despite the many flashes of brilliance in this book, Dawkins’s failure to appreciate just how hard philosophical questions about religion can be makes reading it an intellectually frustrating experience. As long as there are no decisive arguments for or against the existence of God, a certain number of smart people will go on believing in him, just as smart people reflexively believe in other things for which they have no knock-down philosophical arguments, like free will, or objective values, or the existence of other minds. Dawkins asserts that “the presence or absence of a creative super-intelligence is unequivocally a scientific question.” But what possible evidence could verify or falsify the God hypothesis? The doctrine that we are presided over by a loving deity has become so rounded and elastic that no earthly evil or natural disaster, it seems, can come into collision with it. Nor is it obvious what sort of event might unsettle an atheist’s conviction to the contrary. Russell, when asked about this by a Look magazine interviewer in 1953, said he might be convinced there was a God “if I heard a voice from the sky predicting all that was going to happen to me during the next 24 hours.” Short of such a miraculous occurrence, the only thing that might resolve the matter is an experience beyond the grave — what theologians used to call, rather pompously, “eschatological verification.” If the after-death options are either a beatific vision (God) or oblivion (no God), then it is poignant to think that believers will never discover that they are wrong, whereas Dawkins and fellow atheists will never discover that they are right.  

"The God hypothesis"— how can people who claim to speak directly to God, some of whom claim that God speaks directly to them (such as our current president) call it a 'hypothesis'? And, what is wrong with expecting a miraculous occurrence from an imaginary being so many millions insist to be perfectly capable of performing such? Your final sentence of that paragraph cannot be argued against, but what but excuses are made for a God who refuses to exercise his capacities? Is that why it is named 'apologia'?

 As for those in between — ranging from agnostics to “spiritual” types for whom religion is not so much a metaphysical proposition as it is a way of life, illustrated by stories and enhanced by rituals — they might take consolation in the wise words of the Rev. Andrew Mackerel, the hero of Peter De Vries’s 1958 comic novel “The Mackerel Plaza”: “It is the final proof of God’s omnipotence that he need not exist in order to save us.”

 

Jim Holt, a regular contributor to The New Yorker and The New York Times Magazine, is working on a book about the puzzle of existence. 

 I wish Mister Holt well with his venture, and hope that by use of the proper methods he can find a convincing solution to his puzzle.
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