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Determinianity

Science Turned Into Religion?

by Lloyd Harrison Whitling

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One determinist's statement prompts me to revisit this page:

"If you take the determinist stance, you would know that people take positions and make decisions by myriad factors, most of which we are unaware.  The conscious explanations we come up with for our decisions have very little to do with the actual decision-making process and how our brains arrive at those decisions."

I rather like the Englishman's idea of putting all the religious people into a room and allowing them to argue out which religion has the truth. The idea is that, if everybody could live long enough, one of them would eventually come out to announce himself as the winner. I feel almost certain that person would be an atheist, and that he or she would immediately begin telling me about all the ways that human beings are nothing more than a product of determinism. If not, he would be covered with blood from whose vapors would arise the stench of death.

The truth is, old science, most of it ancient, although no longer considered factual, is the origin of much of today's religion. Determinism claims to be scientific, but, since neither of them support their creeds with verifiable principles, it is as close to science as is Intelligent Design. Determinism has to be a secular kind of religion. We could call it Determinianity, mainly because of many similarities it shares with a certain set of theistical religions, not of beliefs, but of procedures.

Maybe you should call it that, too, if you can see the truth in what I am going to tell you next.  Religions seem to require a strawman in order to rise to effectiveness: an "enemy" to attack and distract their victims with while they work their magic of inducing convictions. "Free Will" serves that purpose for Determinianity.

The problem I have with determinism is that it is a stance, even as that gets included in the statements determinists make without apparent awareness of how those statements negatively impact against what they try so hard to support.
 
We are, of course, unaware of all kinds of things that affect us, and very little of where those things originated. I think everybody on either side of that "stance" can take that for granted, and so what the stance does is make the unknowable past somehow of primary importance in a way that distracts from our main concerns without issuing any meaningful directives for our advantage. It replaces Xianity's 'God' with something else "unknowable" and mysterious and asserts it with admonitions against selfhood (as nothing more than an illusion) and the personal ability to make decisions for oneself that more than equal the effects that Xianity has upon its adherents while offering nothing real as to what to do with that information. Are we real and autonomous individuals capable of living human lives or not?
 
In other words, of what importance is it to grant philosophical precedence to our subservience to historical action and consequence events, rather than give precedence to our places in the future of them? The stance serves to detract from our sense of control without really offering reasons any more substantial than those given by most religions to present their own sets of denial to a right to selfhood.
 
It is the air of unknowable mystery given within the statements made by adherents to determinism that put them on a plane occupied by most of the gods, and gives it a hopeless religionlike appeal to the sensibilities. That "most of which we are unaware of" part of the statement that gives some leaky acknowledgement to chaos, and prehistory in a superficial look at the chains of cause-and-effect provides the apologia that equates with religion's "and you cannot prove it's not true."
 
While, like I have said before in such discussions, it seems too obviously true to be questionable, that observation rises up from a shallow examination of it and gives no acknowledgement to interactivity, nor to conflation imposed by the canceling effects of chaos. There is nothing in it to explain why we choose one when multiple equally appealing choices are present, not even when our genetic makeup and early training are taken into account, any more than there is in it to explain why one flip of a coin will land on whichever side it does, or one toss of dice into the air will land in any certain pattern, or each and every leaf on a tree will have a pattern not exactly like any  of the others.
 
Still, determinists will point to examples of how "this" or "these" affected "that" to some notable result. All I can say when they tell their stories is, "Of course." I think that, by taking such a stance in this period of history and development, we prevent ourselves from thinking more about it. I would rather solve what faces me than make them into mysteries that provide easy and pat answers to all of my questions, or give undue credence to those who believe in fate, or to those who think we are "born into" our lots in life and can do nothing about that.
 
Many times, we are aware of how things affect us, and we do take them into account when we struggle to make up our minds about various items of interest. Even the fact that we have NOT experienced something goes into play when we make decisions. Determinist literature on websites of all levels of authority (university level to individuals attempting to provide a sensible account) only serve to elicit more questions, not fewer.
 
And, of course, I have written my own objections and have had no one volunteer to debunk them, even though they have been easy to find on my web site for way more than a year.
 

One way to identify a religious belief as such can be found in the quick effort to put the onus onto critics to prove that the objective of the religious belief does not exist. When challenged to prove that only deterministic factors are at work to enforce all choices, decisions and creative endeavors in which human beings find themselves involved, determinists will, instead, retort that the challenger must prove instead that free will exists— whether or not that ever entered the discussion.

Free will acts as Determinianity's equivalent of Satan. Free will as it gets defined in most dictionaries, defies belief for the thoughtful person: It is impossible to create conditions (much less find them in Nature) that enable an unrestricted capacity to do whatsoever one may desire. We are all constrained in many ways and in all circumstances, including the choosing of one from many alternatives, so that no will is totally free. Even though that is not the special meaning that determinists give free will (and never bother to explain), it remains a red herring behind which determinists hide their own unproven doctrines; and because they are not talking about the same version of free will, the challenger ends up defending something different from what the determinist (if (s)he knows much about it at all) is talking about.

A second way to identify religious belief makes itself apparent if you can accurately identify what acts as a stand-in at the god position. In other words, where is the supernatural component? What acts as an irresistible force against which all human efforts are futile? In Determinianity, that answer is in the force inherited from the past that imposes fate onto all that occurs in the present and future.

Let's examine that: Our normal human perceptions of cause and effect stand in the place of a god for determinists, wherein our perception of events is that they occur in a sequential fashion, each sequence serving as cause for the next. Where one sequence is isolated to be looked at, it appears to be sensible, but that is not the way nature works. All of existence presents itself as a process to our senses; that process results from a stirring effect in which all events branch into multiple results, all of which interfere with each other,  (at least) many of which feed back to the causes, alter their character, and even negate them so they are out of the picture. The result, to our perceptions, is chaos.

That does not affect Determinianity's theme at all, and even though its believers have not offered a demonstrable example of their creed possessing a useful purpose, let alone established itself as factual by the common methods used by scientists, like all religionists, they view themselves as being above the need for that. Although it is up to the believer, always, to bear the onus of proof and to show the world why Determinianity is science and not just religion, just as it is in every other similar case where claims are made about things or conditions that have never been shown to exist, that onus is shoved onto the skeptics. Any philosophy with a definable stand-in for a god and a devil is definitely a religious philosophy, and Determinianity lives up to Calvinistic Predestination's religious heritage.

Will, choices, self, consciousness are all denied existence in the philosophy known as "determinism". It goes the other extreme, it appears, by denying we are anything but the toys of chance. All forms of determinism invalidate the specific attribute that distinguishes humankind from all other known life forms, our natural facility for reasoning.

Question: "If our capacity to reason and choose is nothing but an illusion, how can determinists claim reason and thought to be what led them to atheism, or to maintain their absence of supernatural beliefs?"

To negate reason and choice removes mind and morality from humankind and replaces them with a secular variety of the religionists' predestination. It does so by proclaiming all our actions and choices to be nothing more than the result of everything that ever occurred since the dawning of existence. 'Predestination' claims a god knows every instance of our existence before we are ever born. We are born "sinners" and it has been set in time whether or not we will die "sinners"; we have no say in the matter "unless that has been granted in our predestinations." In determinism, the same thing is said, that "We have no choices. We appear to choose, or to change our natures or our circumstances, only because we were predetermined that way."One of Determinism's Clowns

 Determinism says the same about all of 1Nature, that sequences of cause and effect since the dawning of time predetermine the events and our responses in our lifetimes; that events can happen in only one way as determined by all of the past.

 Ayn Rand defined racism as a form of determinism, and equated it to a caveman version of the doctrine of innate ideas (inherited knowledge) that has been thoroughly refuted by both philosophy and science. Like racism, determinism diminishes human beings to stereotypes inherent to the notion that mankind cannot rise above his ancestral path. Like religion, should someone accomplish the unpredictable, determinists will proclaim "he was predetermined to." In other words, that was his status at birth, and he will never exceed that.

"How?" we might wonder.

"We don't know enough to say that," they offer as a stock response. Like Xianity's god named God, Determinianity works in mysterious ways. Are we not as well off with gods of the same ilk? "You only think you made those choices because that's the way human perceptions work." Is that different from perceiving cause and effect as being the only determiner at work in our lives? Is that different from perceiving cause and effect at all? Is that different from the claim that everything is as God wills and has preordained it? How is one set of perceptions more valid than the other?

  Determinianity accomplishes nothing more than to take common sense and turn it into irresponsible secular  nonsense. All of such kinds of philosophy are nothing but godless religions. We must recognize them as that because they pick up on an idea that cannot be tested and verified, and expound about it to beyond the point of absurdity, decree something to be in opposition whether it is or not, and then accuse critics of supporting that, whether or not they do. That is what religion, for the most part, is all about.

That is what I meant when I said Determinianity does it by attacking the notion of "free will". Say anything against Determinianity, and you are automatically a "Free Willy" since, in Determinianity, you have no will at all. You are an automaton, a mindless machine responding to internal and external circumstances with no say at all in the matter.

Free Will does not serve as Determinianity's only straw man. When opponents insist that they do make choices on a regular basis, determinists begin assailing them with notions about 'spirits' and 'souls', and demand to know who or what it is that drives such choices. They will tell you about experiments that "prove" that the body responds to stimulation microseconds before informing the brain that it has done so. They demand from opponents to define an organic vehicle for choice, but overlook their own statements wherein one is never described. "Who or what," we should demand of them, "informs the brain that such an event has taken place? If consciousness does not exist, then why was such a notification necessary?"

Some of them will describe the various depressants and stimulants to which the human body responds in a predictable fashion, with no choice in the matter. Such chemicals act as pharmacological stand-ins for chemicals the human body naturally produces to serve its own needs. That injecting chemicals to produce an effect, and that we cannot avoid that effect, stands as proof for determinism is a preposterous claim. Chemicals injected from exterior sources are not put there as a result of the body's own determination, and so should be regarded the same as poisons that have invaded the system. That the body has built-in defense mechanisms, whether or not they sometimes go awry, serves as only a fallacious red herring argument that decoys the discussion away from anything at all to do with conscious making of choices.

A better, truer picture of what goes on inside our bodies and minds might result from setting aside all animal functions common to all living mammals, and then looking only at that which makes us 'different'.  Consider Determinianity's claims too closely and you risk becoming a skeptic and risk losing the curiosity that led to all the great ideas that have stayed with you and nurture your own existence. Such curiosity is something else Determinianity would, by decree, prevent us from having in the first place.

We share that in common with many other animals, true, but we differ in that we use it to initiate the discovery process that has led to the great variety of ways in which humans live and use technology today. Even in the most primitive places, human beings live in ways that other animals cannot, and the word 'primitive' mainly refers to the developmental stage achieved by their technology and science.

Determinists will insist we exhibit curiosity as an instinct, and that we advance only as a result of copying and accident. That is the opposite of true! We develop technologically because we want to know. We ask, we tinker, we predict, we try, and we learn, and then we verify what we have learned. Anything good that has come to my life has resulted from my own curiosity, including the woman I have shared love with for half a century. Would I pass up my appreciation for all the good things in my life to adopt this philosophy as my own?— Could I then consider myself better off than had I remained a proponent of Xianity?

I think not. Both are repulsive to my sensibilities because both demand that my sense of self be subjugated to some unproved and undisciplined concept invented by somebody else, perhaps not purposefully so, but contrived nevertheless to enslave its adherents under the guise of a mystery "too vast for our puny human minds to comprehend." All purpose, one size fits all answers to life's dilemmas serve no great purpose I can perceive beyond attempting to mold the lot of us into some absurd kind of sheepish conformity. The motives behind their perpetuation seem ulterior in their eventual application, once they have taken root, as a result of undermining our own sense of individual sovereignty, integrity, and personal responsibility.

Pondering the repugnance inherent to Determinianity will eventually  highlight one of its inherent weaknesses: that it takes a negative view of cause and effect and, by entirely vilifying choice to the status of false illusion, introduces a Christianlike  element of fatalism into what actually ought to be seen as a happy situation. What determinists see as results that have been preordained by events and conditions from the past, a more productive and constructive view will see as possibilities and advantages.

Determinianity: "He was determined to go to college because of events and conditions from his past. He had no choice."

Nurturism: "He was enabled to choose college by relying on things he had already learned and experienced, thanks to his wise parents and interested teachers, his absence of religious beliefs, and a choice he had made early on that he could best serve his fellow humankind by doing the best for himself."

Nurturism is personal enablement and growth; Determinianity, like Xianity, is denigration and shrinkage, abandonment of goal and self-actualization, and promotes nihilism.

‘Free Will’ is described (in American Heritage) as the power, attributed especially to human beings, of making free choices that are unconstrained by external circumstances or by an agency such as fate or divine will. No one needs to resort to outlandish disclaimers to understand the error in that interpretation of free will lies in the notion of constrainment being absent. Interactive action and consequence interferes tremendously with "free" will, however we interpret the meaning of that. We respond, as Determinianity notes, but we also try to steer the effects our responses will have upon ongoing circumstances that may actually have been initiated by us.

In some senses, free will is impossible to exist; in others, we are free to choose from all kinds of alternatives, but never are we totally unconstrained. Determinianity narrowly focuses on the first view, and seems incapable to grant the second any veracity. Free Will was supposedly granted by God in the Garden of Eden in the version that causes all the arguments, and against which determinists focus their arguments while saving the above for "plan B" and somehow never getting around to their own definition of "Free Will", a tactic that enables them to change definitions mid-stream, which they do when the discussion gets tough.

We are all constrained in many ways by internal and external circumstances, and also by the simple fact that choosing to pursue one route often cancels out all other options from that point on: We can (legally) marry one choice at a time, who generally must be of a sex different from our own, and be required to abandon all the others. We can live in one home, drive only one car at a time (or walk or take a bicycle instead), be in only one place at a time. A pure understanding of free will would violate all those impingements. 

Beyond that (as if that can't be enough), other physical limitations impose constraints that the concept of free will disallows: We may not be strong enough, tall enough, or smart enough to pursue our preferred choices. We may not be aware of many alternatives to what we do choose. Some potential choices may have been romanticized so that we become influenced to choose them. We may remain oblivious to some due to attitudes induced by our beliefs. These, and many more like them, impinge upon free will and make it an impossible concept to defend. Why, then, does Determinianity insist that we are "Free Willies" when we argue against it?

The answer is simple: Determinists have no facts to work with, but for those they have cherry picked from the rubble, and so must resort to sly religion-like arguments, angry responses and name-calling in their own defense. Rather than acknowledge its actual true opponent is emergence, Determinianity distracts us with red herrings and platitudes.

 Therefore: Determinianity, religiously defended by secular zealots. Never believe the claim that all atheists are irreligious.

 

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1.  Nature is the proper name generally granted to the overall process that incorporates and results in material existence, and stands as the result of all lesser processes which build up to that through time.   RETURN

 

 

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