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Here is a brand-new page dealing with an erroneous claim often heard from Xian apologists. This one, written by Bob Allen, exposes an atheist's view of the claim that atheism is a communist religion.

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Carol Smith, a secular humanist, forwarded a letter to a discussion group which included this, in part:

 Under Communism, the religion was atheism.  There was no god. Therefore, there was nothing but this life, then death. Consequently, there was no messianic fanaticism driving the Communist leaders. They simply killed to kill and conquer. [This viewpoint is inherent to the dogma that insists atheism is a religion without moral constraints, and that the murderous communistic and fascistic leaders of the past were atheists].

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I know education in the U.S. leaves a lot to be desired as to history. Atheism, Theism and messianic fanaticism can be found in many countries' leaders whether Capitalist or Communist.

Often I've seen people refer to Stalin and Hitler saying that they were Atheist, but that is an outright lie. I refer you to a history book called Hitler and Stalin: Parallel Lives by Alan Bullock. Hitler was Roman Catholic and Stalin was Russian Orthodox (both were Christian).

Stalin was kicked out of the Seminary school (attended in Tiflis from 1894 to 1899) in his fifth year for being too activist. The school encouraged students to inform on each other and this led him to be very distrustful (he also suffered an abusive drunken father which likely contributed to his distrustful nature). That led him to purge many military and church leaders once he came to power, but it didn't turn him into an Atheist.

In fact, after the war he declared the Russian Orthodox Church to be the state church. This was the result of his Christian upbringing, his mother wanted him to become a priest and he nearly did. Far be it for many people to pay attention to truth when slurring and dehumanizing people, countries, and even philosophies they wish to hate. A lie not corrected, told often enough, becomes generally accepted (as Hitler stated and practiced).

Hitler, a True Christian, said:

"The national government will maintain and defend the foundations on which the power of our nation rests. It will offer strong protection to Christianity as the very basis of our collective morality. Today Christians stand at the head of our country. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit. We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theatre, and in the press — in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past years." -- Adolf Hitler; from The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1, Michael Hakeem, Ph.D. (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pp. 871-872.

Bob Allen

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